Question:
NASCAR! old school vs new fools?
I Know Everything b
2009-06-05 22:32:03 UTC
anyone else wanna see some legit stock car racing. you know, race cars that at least share the same drive platform as production cars. like it was 30 years before i was born.
Eleven answers:
anonymous
2009-06-05 22:42:36 UTC
Any kinda of school is ok with me as long as its Nascar Racing.
Chevrolet See The USA #14
2009-06-06 23:56:14 UTC
I'm a car enthusiast since birth. I like your idea but then I thought it would be like racing 43 pace-cars at 120 mph and it would be muffled too.

The old day's were great because the technology was so new and exciting that big innovations were really applauded and respected by fellow car builders and drivers. Nowday's 550 horsepower in a production car seems the norm and you get A/C, navigation and fuel economy to boot. They've reached a horsepower ceiling in Nascar to where there slowing the car's down now.



Here's the main problem with the idea. The V8 Hemi Charger's and V8 Impala SS would lap the V6 Fusion and Camry within 4 laps. Ultimately, the Charger would win after 500 miles because they handle a-bit better than the Impala.



Driver's will 'one-up' the other driver's to compete and the next week, everybody would show up at the track with a Hemi Charger and wahhllaa.....43 identical car's!!! Think about it. LOL.
crunch
2009-06-06 20:30:55 UTC
(N)ot A (S)port for (C)rybabies or (A)thletic (R)ejects







"Legit" stock car racing ended in 1949, a few hours after the first race, when drivers and owners started trying to figure out how to stop them from breaking.



The end of Detroit "iron" came during the turbulent 70's, when manufacturers were jumping in and out the sport with regularity.



The final nail in the coffin occurred when cars built by Edwin Keith "Banjo" Matthews in a suburb of Asheville, N.C. won 262 of 362 NASCAR Winston Cup races from 1974-1985, including all 30 races in 1978, and four consecutive Winston Cup championships (1975-78).



Under the skins of any manufacturer, the cars were identical, except for the engine and the teams that raced them.



The only people to have ever seen a “legit” stock car race were in the stands in Charlotte in 1949, but since the winner was disqualified for cheating, was it really “legit”?







It is true that NASCAR does not write rules, the participants do.



Years ago, the "rule" book contained some parameters surrounding the fuel line as in length, routing, couplings, material. One enterprising person noticed a parameter was missing in black and white. The diameter. He used this oversight and installed a 2" line that would hold enough fuel to outdistance the field.





He watched as NASCAR inspected his car, finding nothing. He asked if they were "happy now", receiving an affirmative, and with his fuel tank on the ground, hopped in and drove it away. "Smokey" always enjoyed yanking "Big" Bill's chain.



NASCAR looked again, finding the "innovation". The next day all the teams received "Smokey's rule" regarding the diameter of the fuel line.



Smokey also “wrote” the template rule, the weight rule and the minimum allowable sheet metal rule, among many others.





The roots of the COT stretch back through 30 years of NASCAR having to regulate such things as roof lines, deck lids and spoiler areas in order to keep the field as level as possible and the incessant whining from the participants that X has a perceived advantage over Y.



Safety was of course a consideration and the death of an Icon certainly accelerated the process but it was coming regardless.
anonymous
2009-06-06 11:35:07 UTC
I would like to see the cookie cutter thrown out, except when it comes to safety. I don't think all the cars sharing the same body is a safety factor, but NASCAR wants parity. All the cars the same, next thing you know, NASCAR will set them up exactly alike. It will be like dropping 43 bowling balls off of a building and declaring the one that lands first the winner...
Boondie
2009-06-06 14:04:07 UTC
Things change. Some of the racing back then was great, but not all of it. Some races would be won by numerous laps. That's not exciting. I agree that NASCAR sometimes shoots too much for parity, but all in all, the racing today is pretty good and much, much safer, and that's the most important aspect of all. I don't want drivers dying out there for our entertainment.
KnK's Mommy.
2009-06-06 18:20:52 UTC
While the competition level should be brought up a few notches, I would rather not see people dying in wrecks and/or getting seriously injured just trying to entertain people. And the drivers (pretty or not so) did not implement the changes- Nascar did. So it has nothing to do with that. People slam this sport enough. We don't need to start killing drivers again.
anonymous
2009-06-07 23:59:44 UTC
I for one care about the safety of the drivers and all team members and fans on or near the track. We deal with changes in our everyday lives as well, some for the better some for the worse.





GO 24!!!!
fluffy
2009-06-06 14:02:54 UTC
you are being contradictory in your terms, and Beth has nailed this question to the wall. And "no" NASCAR does not stand for Nonproduction And Safe Cars And Regulations. That is apparently your sarcasm getting in the way of clear judgemental type of thinking.

Reality dictates there are no "fools" who are competitive in motorsports. And "old school" just refers to past history, which of course brings us to the present via modifications. NASCAR is a very progressive sport. Enjoy the show!
MARK
2009-06-06 06:38:12 UTC
old school was cool i was there in N.C.in the sixties but any time a driver dies it seems like nascar trys to make it safer but slower isn,t always better.now there isn,t as much skill as there is luck.
beth
2009-06-06 05:42:50 UTC
Not me. The front wheel drive platforms would be troublesome and slow. The uni-bodies without frames would be death traps.



By the time you fixed the safety and performance problems you would be almost back to where we are now.
J-Rod
2009-06-10 03:02:16 UTC
old skool rules the cot produce the worst racing i've seen.


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